Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 15:08:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: Secret River <secret_rivers@yahoo.com>
Subject: ALI, The Doorman In Cairo

ALI, The Doorman In Cairo
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WARNING
This story involves Adult/child incest relationship.
If you are not 18 years of age or are offended by
this type of story, please do not read. Any
comments or encouragement to continue please
write to me at secret_rivers@yahoo.com    .
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The story is totally true, it happened to me in
Cairo in 1997 while I was working in a mission to
help improve the rural suburbs. I wrote it
originally in Arabic and I'm translating it to
English, sorry for my English.  Some names have
been changed.
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The Doorman! - Chapter 1
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It's 10pm, I am very tired, and I was working late
on this project, which will never finish. I have to
take break but no body stayed in the office, I'm
alone. I prepared cup of tea and went to the
balcony and sit on the chair watching Cairo's
night. It was very nice view, our neighborhood is
little bit scary, it's the area of drugs and murders,
but this is the best area for our projects. I directly
felt bored, sitting by myself on this balcony, I
need something alive to interact with, I thought
about this fellow (the doorman) who is from this
area, he is supposed to go with me when I have to
leave, because it's danger and risky to walk by
myself at this hour in this neighborhood. His name
is ALI.

ALI is a local doorman, 37 year old; we hired him
because we need someone from this neighborhood
who can protect us from his own surround. He
knows the area better then anyone else, and he is
very good in dealing with the local people. So, he
is the only one available now, at least I can chat
with human being but I don't know how much it
will be fun talking to someone like him.


"ALI, are you there" I called him

"Yes Sir, I'm here, do you need any help?" he
replied

"No ALI, I only need some company, I have
prepared some tea, I invite you, go upstairs, and
I'm on the balcony" I said

 We sit on this balcony, he was very shy and
surprised for my invitation  (maybe it was the first
invitation for him from someone in the office), but
I only wanted someone to talk to, or at least I
wanted something alive beside me.

We really have wonderful view from this balcony;
you can see these poor neighborhoods and how
they turned at night like haunted places, just dust
cats and silence. We haven't had any word for
almost 10 minutes.

ALI is a typical Arabic man (actually Egyptian),
he always wears this white dress. He has very fit
and athletic body, for sure his athletic body has
developed while working as labor in this area
since he was kid. He never shaves his light beard.
He weight about 70kg(160lbs) and 180cm(6') tall.

I always liked his type, but I never think about it
especially in this conservative and close Muslim
neighborhood. But, I often sit and watch these
gorgeous guys wondering the street in front of our
office.

I have always been in my closet, and never
showed my homosexuality especially with my
conservative background and my very straight
look. I'm gay male, 24 years old, very manly
looking. And I have quiet similar body to ALI.

And then I asked him:
"I know you are married, how many children do
you have? And how long have you been married?"

"This is my second marriage, I was first married
when I was 14 years old from my cousin which
was 40 years old, she was little bit sick and
suffered from many health problems then she died
after 10 years and I had one girl from her. I got
married again directly after she died, I was 24 and
my new wife was 13. My daughter from my first
marriage gets married after 4 years. I live now
with my current wife and she is 27 and I'm 38 and
we have 2 sons (Ahmed 13 and Husan 12) and one
daughter (Hala 14)." He replied

I asked: "are you happy in your marriage? And
how you lived with your previous wife and there
was 28 years difference age? Were you sexually
satisfied? Especially you were the young boy and
she was the mature lady, how was it? I'm very
curious about similar relationships specially from
the sexual part."

After little bit of silence, and after I felt that he
doesn't want to answer, he replied: "I was not
happy in my first relationship. I was very young
and she was very sick, she wanted to do what she
wants and I was like her son-lover not a husband.
You know that I had only 10 to 15 sexual contacts
with her only in the 10 years of marriage!!! Yes I
was suffering, I used to go with my friends and
jerk off in the backyards and then go back and
sleep with her like sleeping with my mother. She
used to beat me from time to time, and I used to
get afraid from her. When I had sex with her we
used to get covered and never get totally nude, I
just enter my dick in her pussy and cum inside her
without even a kiss or touch, I never saw her
breast. I was suffering.But I'm now very
satisfied, I'm very happy in my current marriage
and my entire family do. They are very happy too
and we all wait the night to get together in our
small room where I live. It's very small room in
the roof 5 minutes from here. My current wife is
very happy also in this marriage especially
because she was suffering in her home where she
grew up as servant for her dad and her
stepmother. Ok I have to go now. It's too late and
I should let you continue working because I have
to accompany you at midnight, an hour and half
from now. Thank you for the tea and I'm looking
forward for another sits like that. Call me when
you are ready to leave, I will be sitting outside the
front door"

I thanked him for trusting me and talking to me
about his past, and he was pleased and happy
especially because I'm not one of his surrounds
and he can trust me and it seems he wants to speak
about these taboos.

I worked for 2 more hours, and he took me out of
this neighborhood and I got taxi from there to my
apartment.


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The Truth! - Chapter 2
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The next day, I wanted also to stay late and I was
also alone in the office. Similar to the previous
day, I called ALI to have cup of tea with me.

"ALI, are you out there?" I said

" Yes, hello Ziad (my name), I was having some
tea with some friends but there is no problem I can
have one with you if you want to have one." He
replied

" Yes come upstairs, the tea is ready and I'm very
bored, we can sit on the balcony" I said

We sit there, and the weather was nice, he seems
more comfortable today, I won his trust and
friendship especially because these local people
are quiet isolated from these foreigners that came
to improve these areas, you can find a mistrust and
lot of distance between them. They are the
outsiders and few people like me succeed to get
close to the local people.

"Let's have beer, don't worry and I know that you
are Muslim and it is not allowed in your religion
to drink alcohol, but we are alone here and no
body will know about it. I have some great
imported black beer. You have to try it. Just try it"
I said, I know that it is difficult to convince him to
drink alcohol especially in conservative
neighborhood like that, but I succeeded and we
started to drink.

I continued: "Do you remember our discussion
yesterday? I was thinking about it and I realized
how much you have suffered in your first
marriage, you stayed without or with rarely sex
for almost 10 years, haven't you had any sex with
others? I will not believe you if you said no,
because I can see myself in your position and I'm
sure you were always horny especially because
you were in a very active age."

He hesitated to answer and I felt that this is
something he never talked about, but with these 3
bottles of beer he felt encouraged to tell me his
secrets:" I had once an affair with a cousin who
was in my age, she liked to experience sexual
contact with me, we slept naked together and she
sucked mine and jerked me off, but I have never
had it again with her" then he stopped and he
started to think, he was like hiding something

I opened for him new bottle of beer and I said "I
can understand you, and I'm sure everybody will
do what you have done, but I'm sure you have
done more than that, and it's normal but no body
talk about it, go ahead and tell me what you also
did"

After little bit of silence, and with a hard dick
showed up from his white and light dress, he
continues: "I was always horny, I sometimes
jerked off 3 or 4 times a day. I was in need of
sexual affair and it was impossible to have affair
in this society. But I was not only suffering with
this problem, I had many friends in my age and all
of them have discussed these issues. We used to sit
in the backyards and talk about stories but I have
never mentioned my wife. And sometimes and
when we were not too much, we sit and jerked off
and one day it developed to be like sex. We were
3, all in the same age (around 17), we start
touching each other and then jerked each other
dicks. and after few times it developed to be
more active, and we agreed that each time one of
us will pretend to be a girl, and he will serve us as
girl. We have done it few times then we stopped
after we felt that someone is watching us. We get
scared and never met each other again"

"What do you mean by pretending like girl? Do
you mean he gets fucked?" I asked

"No, no, he should try to dance for us, than start
jerking off our dicks. After that, he has to sit on
our dicks and pretend that he is getting fucked and
sometimes he suck our dicks and rarely swallow
the cum. We enjoyed it; it was funny more than
horny.  Sometimes we tried to enter our dicks in
the asses, but to be frank my ass was the only one
which were able to hold their dicks and I don't
know why." He added

"So, you only succeeded to get fucked but never
fuck, have you enjoyed it?" I asked

"I told you it was funny more than horny" he
answered

"Just simple as you said? You let them fucking
you and you feel nothing?!!" I asked

"Look, it happened only twice and they started to
make fun of me and they stated to call me as the
girl because they only succeed to enter their dicks
in my ass and we haven't succeed to enter our
dicks in their asses. I felt very embarrassed, and
it turned to be like tragedy for me instead of fun
and this is why I pushed to stop everything. Some
of my friends they still remind me about it from
time to time and this still bothering me. Please I
feel nervous every time I think about it. They
entered their dicks and I was not thinking about
myself, but it was my turn to be the girl and I have
already promised them. So, I think they betrayed
me. " He replied with some nervous.

"So, you had fun, but haven't you fucked any
other girls during this period other then this one
time with your cousin?" I asked

He looked at me for few minutes and he added
with a very shy voice: "Is it normal in your
country to have sex with family members?".

I knew directly that he was having some incest
relationship, so I lied little bit in order to
encourage him to talk, I told him that my uncle
always slept with his daughter after he divorced.
And I told him that we have some cases in the
families but no body talk about it. And then I told
him that I don't have problem with incest, but it
didn't happen to me and told him that I knew that
he is in some kind of incest and asked him what it
looks like. He said directly NO and he is not into
incest, suddenly he opened another beer and said
to me: " I have always played with my daughter's
pussy in my first marriage, because she always
sleep beside us (from my side) and I always
entered my finger in her ass and she liked it. But I
never fucked her, we once slept naked together
and she sucked mine and jerked me off. "

" This is fun, have you liked it? And did you want
to do more than that or just wanted to try?" I
asked

"It was fun yes. My daughter accepted it from the
beginning, she always liked me and hated her
mother, but I didn't want to do more than that
because I was afraid from my wife to know
because my daughter started to ask more than
that, I don't know if she liked it and she wanted
sex but I think she liked to experience new things.
One day I wake up from an afternoon nap and she
was playing with my dick, I got scared and I
decided to stop everything." He replied

"What about now? Are you still having some
affairs with your other daughter?" I asked

"No, I have no sexual contact with my current
daughter, but she always watched me and my wife
having fuck, you know we live in one room and
this is normal." He replied

"Are you happy in your current life? And you
current sexual life?" I asked

"I always feel that the sexual life is the most
important in our life, and we are happy if we are
satisfied in our sexual life. I work very hard all the
day, but I always think about night because this is
the sex time, I love sex and I can do everything to
be sex satisfied. And this is what my current family
share with me. My wife likes to have sex every
second and everywhere" he replied

I said "you mention something about your family,
not only your wife, what do you mean?"

"Well it is little bit complicated, many things has
developed in the last few years but everybody liked
it and we are happy" he replied

"You mean you had something with your
daughter? But you just mentioned that you never
touched her!" I asked

"Not my daughter, but my two boys, they were
funny and we always have fun. all the family and
they are funny" he replied

"So, I can see you have some attraction to men,
right?" I asked

"Not exactly, don't misunderstand me. I don't like
to have fuck with other guys, I like to have only
fun with my family" he replied

"Tell me how it started? I asked

"Well, we live in one room and we all sleep
together, beside each others on the floor. I always
fuck my wife in front of my children and we always
talk about it and discuss it and make fun of it
during the dinner and when we are together. My 2
boys are very funny and they always make fun of
me and my wife and how I fuck her. At the
beginning, they started to watch us while we are
getting fuck and I used to sit on my knees and fuck
her while she were sitting on her back, and before
I cum I take it out and cum on her stomach. One
day I was so excited and my cum went far and
reached my boys faces, they always sleep beside
us (they were 11 and 12 years old). They were
awake and started to make fun of it and then they
lick my cum. They liked it and started to wait
every time I cum to swallow my cum. And it got
developed, sometimes they come to me after
dinner and started to jerk me off and swallow
mine. But to be frank, I encouraged them, I like to
be developed this way and I always like to fuck my
wife in front of them. I had suffered in the last 10
years but I don't want to suffer now. I want to
enjoy myself as much as I can" he replied

"Well, it is so excited, you know how to enjoy
yourself. Does anyone know anything about what
happening in your house? It is very dangerous and
some people does not understand what is
happening and can make problem for you" I asked

"No don't worry, I'm very careful about that, even
my close friends does not know about it neither my
family" he replied

"But your sons are very young, and they can tell
about it just because they don't understand how
much these issues are sensitive" I said

"No, they don't talk about it and I never forced
them to do it, they did it by themselves and believe
me that lot of similar things happen in these
houses" he replied

"Why you think that lot of things happening, have
you seen or heard about similar stories? And why
do you think it is happening?" I asked

"Look, you know that this area is very isolated
then other part of Cairo, and it is also very
conservative. This is why many relationships have
been developed during these years inside the
houses. Imagine 80% from the families never go
out the house. My father used to fuck my sister, I
know that but everybody in my house knew that
but we have not the courage to speak about it. My
uncle has always slept with his son after his wife
died, and his son left him and his is now like
prostitute on Cairo's streets.  But this is why I am
careful and I always keep my wife and my sons
satisfied and this is the most important. My second
daughter married also 4 months ago, but I always
kept her satisfied. I always let her play with her
brothers. I never mentioned for them and never
pushed them but I let it happen. They used to play
with her pussy and fingered her while I was
fucking my wife and she like it. " He replied

"You seems you have very active sexual life in
your house, have you had any affairs outside your
house" I asked

"No, I won't do it even tough I had the chance to
do it many times. I'm really satisfied inside my
house" He replied

"Well, The only thing I can say is that you are
lucky with such family. I envy you and I hope I will
have one" I said

Do you mean you would like to have in your
family similar of what I'm having with my family?
I mean having sex with your wife in front of your
children and your kids playing with your dick?!"
he said

"Yah, why not, I'm very open to such things, I
liked it and I feel it's very horny, why I should
refuse it, I really envy you and I like to have one
similar family" I said

"I know from the beginning that we have the same
philosophy, and be sure that you are the first one
that he knows about these stories and I was sure
from the beginning that you have passion for these
things and you would like them" he said

He added "We have to stop now, It's midnight and
I have to accompany you out of this neighborhood.
Thank you for everything. And we can continue
our chat tomorrow"

"Yes for sure, I liked our chat and thank you for
your time and always be sure that you can trust
me" I said

"I know that, and I always will. Oh, by the way,
why don't you pass by my house tomorrow and we
can have dinner with my family. Oh, but forget
everything about the stories, it is just a dinner" he
said

I liked this idea, I was curious to know his family,
his wife and the room that I already built in my
imagination. He took me out of this neighborhood
and I went back to my apartment. But really I had
horny discussion; he was very excited while
telling me all his stories. But to be frank, it was
clear that he was also afraid and little bit nervous
and maybe shy.